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CWJJ Episode 104: Jereme Stewart

Jereme Stewart

Thursday, March 3- Jereme Stewart joins us this week and talks all things SICK.

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Episode Transcript

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Jim Schauer:  Good morning, everyone. Welcome to this week’s episode of Coffee with Jim & James. James, every morning that I get to start off in the Coffee with Jim & James coffee bar is a great day. So I am pumped today, but I got to tell you a little story about our guest today. [0:00] [0:00]

James Cross:  There’s always a story. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  There…that’s…I am made for stories. People say that I am the ultimate storyteller. Some of them may be fabricated, allegedly, but this one is true. I want to tell you how we got to know our guest. [0:00] [0:00] Um, walking through the SGA event in Charlotte, down the aisle I saw a booth and I’m walking by and it says “Sick”. Now, I think there’s a different pronunciation that we may learn down the road, but anyways. [0:00] [0:00] I see this and I’m like, “Wow.” I said, “That, that name is really sick”. And somebody by the name of Jereme may have looked at me up from setting up. I mean, people are busy working, where I’m doing what I normally do, walk around and meet people. [0:00] [0:00] And, and I see he’s putting together stuff. He looks at me, he goes, “Oh, that’s the first time I’ve ever heard that one.” [0:00] [[0:00] laughter] [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  But we got to know each other there, there were just a few booths down and, uh. [0:00] [0:00] Again, the idea though, James, of, you know, trade conferences, this is a perfect example of it. Just we go there to meet people and to establish relationships and networks. [0:00] [0:00]

James:  Yeah. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  And as a result we’re sitting here today, so. Anyways, James… [0:00] [0:00]

James:  You know, that’s a, that’s a really good point, uh, Jimmy, is one cool thing about getting back out there, you know, back in the industry these past couple of months is the kind of byproduct of the show, of getting to meet people that we want to bring on the show, you know. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  Yeah, absolutely. [0:00] [0:00]

James:  Or want to come on the show. They’re like, “What are you doing?” We’re like, “I don’t know.” [0:00] [0:00] Uh, and, and we meet up and people are like, “I really want to be a part of this,” or we’re like, “You need to come on the show.” And we’ve been trying to catch up, honestly, from all those conferences and get everybody recorded, so Jereme was one of those victims, um, from that very thing. [0:00] [0:00] Good morning, sir. How are you? [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme Stewart:  I’m great. Thank you for having me on. I appreciate it. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  It’s our pleasure. [0:00] [0:00]

James:  We, we are excited. We, we did, we got to spend some time, uh, together in Charlotte, uh, when, I don’t know, somebody won an award for a podcast. What that, was that before the award or after the awards? Where we award winning when you met, Jereme, or were we? [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  No, it was before that I met him, because we, I, at that time we didn’t think that we had a snowball’s chance of winning that award. And, so, we were prudent… [0:00] [0:00]

James:  And then the snowball won. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  Yeah. We were honored just to be listed. [0:00] [0:00]

James:  Anyway, we, we have a quota, Jereme, to bring that out four more times, so, um. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Three more? [0:00] [0:00]

James:  Help us out. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  [laughs] [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  So, Jereme, tell, tell us a little bit about, uh, yeah, introduce yourself, please, and your title. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Sure. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  Uh, and then I want to dive a little bit deeper in a second, but please, uh, you have, you have the stage, sir. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Sure. No, thank you. You know, my name is Jereme Stewart. I work with SICK. Um, office out of, like, Houston, home office out of Pennsylvania. I am in the oil and gas division of SICK, and I actually oversee, or help oversee, all of the downstream flash utility business in the US for natural gas. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  OK, OK. We have been seeing, and, and I, again, I want to get the pronunciation all right, because normally we would just say sick. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Sure. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  But I know there’s a little bit. Can you go into the…You guys have been around for a long time. I don’t think people really realize that. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Mm‑hmm. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  We’ve been seeing you more and more at trade events, which is great. Can you give us a little history of your company, where it began, uh, kind of the highlights, and how you got involved with it too, please? [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Sure. Yep, so SICK, uh, just turned 75 here last year or this year, and, um, it’s actually a person’s last name. So SICK is Dr. Erwin Sick. He is a German. He’s from Germany, and our company is still a privately owned German company. [0:00] [0:00] Um, we do more than just, um, natural gas meters and, and measurement. We also have a process division, a, um, logistics automation division, industrial automation division as well. So what we are is a sensor company. So we really specialize in sensors all throughout the world. We are a global company. [0:00] [0:00]

James:  Wow. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  Interesting. [0:00] [0:00]

James:  But, you know, we just had a…well, not just, I don’t know, a few months back. Remember the guys from Evonik were on. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  Oh, yeah. Yeah. [0:00] [0:00]

James:  Do you know them, Jereme? Did you meet them at SGA? [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  I didn’t. I should have. [0:00] [0:00]

James:  Um, they’re doing the PA 12 pipe, and it’s, it’s like, you know, it seems like they were like a 10 thousand year old company or something. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  [chuckle] [0:00] [0:00]

James:  And, uh, and they are so big in scope and it just kind of reminds me of, of, you know, that when you speak of how, how broad you all’s scope is. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Yes. [0:00] [0:00]

James:  So when we were, when we were at SGA we talked a little bit. That was part of the reason we talked about coming on was, um, was some of that natural gas measurement side and that ultrasonic natural gas. Can you? [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Yeah. [0:00] [0:00]

James:  We, we have people that listen to this that probably are super nerdy, um, about that topic, topic. And then we probably have some people that are going, “What?” [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  [laughs]. [0:00] [0:00]

James:  Um, could you bring folks along for some pack that forwards a little bit. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Yeah. So I could j‑, I’ll give you an ultrasound technology in a nutshell. So, um, ultrasonic technology is not new. Um, it’s not something that we invented. [0:00] [0:00] Um, basically what it is, is counting time. That’s, that’s really what ultrasonic is. So we sent an acoustical signal through a transducer and count the time that it takes to get to the other transducer. [0:00] [0:00] Um, so you can imagine if you have natural gas flowing, um, picture the natural gas flow as a river and the resistance of the flow of the river slows down the audio acoustical signal from the other tra‑, from one transducer to the other as it goes upstream of the flow. And as it goes downstream, it speeds it up. [0:00] [0:00] So you then take the difference in this big long calculation and ‑‑ that I don’t know ‑‑ and, um, you come up with a flow rate. And so from there you can, you can equate volume and, uh, cubic feet…actual cubic feet of natural gas. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim Schauer:  So it, it takes into account… [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Mm‑hmm. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  It will take into account temperature and pressure. Correct? [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Yes, uh‑huh. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  OK. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Yep. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  OK. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Yep. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  Because that’s what bring me back to my old utility days. I know we had so many manual processes depending on what meterer worried we were using… [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Oh, yeah. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  what application. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Mm‑hmm. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  That we actually had, manually, had to input into a system what pressure is being delivered. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Yes. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  Because if we had it at, uh, two pound pressure, which up in Minneapolis, St. Paul area…Uh, CenterPoint did run a, a two pound system, but in other areas for industrial commercial use, we ran higher pressures. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Mm‑hmm. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  And I know that we didn’t compensate for that and we assumed it was really being delivered at 2 pounds, when in reality it was even 25 pounds. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Oh, yeah? [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  That’s a huge billing difference. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Yes. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  Especially on a commercial or an industrial user. Huge. So, OK, that’s good to know. That’s really good to know. [0:00] [0:00] So it does and then temperature is another thing up in Minneapolis, as you can imagine. It’s not a big deal, but it can get down to…Where in other parts of the United States, we have somewhat swings in, in Minnesota. You get swings, you know. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Oh, no. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  You’re going down ‑10, ‑15. Um, so you could have a 60 degree difference from what your normal operating days are OK. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Yeah. [0:00] [0:00]

James:  Jereme, how, how new is ultrasonic or how, how long has it been around? [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  For hundreds of years. [0:00] [0:00]

James:  Yeah, I mean as far as for this application. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Um, I’m not sure. Uh, it’s definitely, you know, we’re not the first. [0:00] [0:00]

James:  Yeah. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Um, but we are one of the best, uh‑huh. [0:00] [0:00]

James:  I see. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  You know, so. Um, it, it’s been around, it’s been proven. Um, it, it’s another form of measurement for, you know, you could do gas or liquids, uh, for ultrasonic measurement. It just takes different transducers and calculations. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  Uh, and let me just clarify that question. I think I was going on that path. You guys are really targeting commercial and industrial customers versus homes. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Yes. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  So this would be for higher volumes, higher pressures, higher etcetera? [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Yeah, not necessarily higher pressure, but, um, you know, higher volumes. So it…we don’t have a residential meter. [0:00] [0:00] So we start ‑‑ um, in our downstream business ‑‑ we start at the commercial industrial type customer and then we actually have products and applications that fit all the way from, um, you know, call it the burner tip to back to the wellhead. [0:00] [0:00] So we have meters and applications and software and other products that scope the entire spectrum of the oil and gas industry, except for the house meters. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  OK, and I think I played around with this. I ran a midstream group back in the, uh, early 2000s. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Mm‑hmm. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  And I think there’s some applications where we, we did laterals off some of the midstreams. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Yeah. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  And I think we use, I think, in a couple cases we use ultrasonic because of the accuracy to. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Sure. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  Versus a rotary or another type of meter. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Yeah. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  And that’s…I think that’s what was probably my first taste of it. And that was, uh, in the Gulf Coast. I was probably running laterals in Louisiana, so. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Mm‑hmm. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  All right. This is good to connect the dots. James… [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Yeah, there you go. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  James, James, I think… [0:00] [0:00]

James:  It’s another one of those episodes. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  I’ve speak enough today. [0:00] [0:00]

James:  We’ve been on a run where you’ve been the nerd in the room. Yeah. It’s a nice change. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  What? You know. [0:00] [[0:00] laughter] [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  It, uh, it, it’s fun. I’ve, I, I’ve…As, as everybody knows that those be my passion for the energy industry and natural gas is deep and, uh, very wide. And I just, I just love, uh, talking, hearing about, learning, and such like that. [0:00] [0:00] Jereme, let me, let me switch gears a little bit. Um, safety. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Yes. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  It’s at the forefront of all our… [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Oh, yeah. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  Everything we do in the whole industry. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Mm‑hmm. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  Safety first, uh, safety moments, tailboard meetings, the whole bit. That energy world that our vision is to make the world a safer place to work. Very simple, but it’s a, it’s a very strong, um, you know, it, it says what our, our core is. [0:00] [0:00] And, and we, and as you know in “Coffee with Jim and James” we have so many topics on safety. [0:00] [0:00] Ultrasonic gas meters, um, what, you know, can you explain how that may tie in? [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Oh, yes. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  As well as your company, SICK, your, your folks’ stance on safety and, and how, how that translates into your world and how you also deliver that to the, to the industry? [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Sure. Yeah, obviously safety is massive in this industry. Um, it’s definitely forefront of mind for us and all of our customers, um, not just for, you know, us selling products but for our service group as well. [0:00] [0:00] And we’re constantly trying to identify ways to make our customers, employees safer and trying to find a way to make everyone that interfaces with our products and other products as safe as possible. [0:00] [0:00] For ultrasonic technology, there’s a, there’s a safety issue right in front of your face where it’s a mecha‑, it’s a mechanical thing, right? So, first off, ultrasonics don’t have any mechanical parts, OK? [0:00] [0:00] So there’s, there’s nothing to really break. Um, there’s nothing to stop working and there’s nothing to impede the gas flow. So, one aspect of safety is when you don’t impede the gas flow, you don’t lose a customer if the meter fails. [0:00] [0:00] Meters are going to fail regardless of what they are. Whether they’re ultrasonic, rotary, diaphragm, turbine, they’re going to fail at some point. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  Yeah. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  You know, and, and that’s understood. But the last thing you want is to freeze out a retirement home in Minnesota in the middle of winter… [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  Yeah. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  …because your meter failed, right? [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  Yeah. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  So ultrasonic meters don’t have those moving parts to block gas flow. So if the meter fails, you’ll lose measurement, but you won’t lose gas flow. [0:00] [0:00] Uh, so that’s why, you know, for our meters, we have a FLOWSIC500. Um, it’s fantastic for commercial applications. It’s a smaller meter, lower pressure, lower volumes. Um, and it just makes a, a wonderful meter for those types, like hospitals, schools, apartment complexes, stuff like that. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  Yep. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  So, dovetailing into that, into the mechanical pieces and having no mechanical side, you then have less maintenance. Well, less maintenance means now you’re rolling less trucks. [0:00] [0:00] So, if you have yours, your team at your utility per se, and you’re driving out to the meter site to perform scheduled maintenance on a meter. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  Mm‑hmm. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Um, you know, spinning it, doing your spin test, you know, adding oil to the meter. You know, that employee then takes a risk and the company takes a risk by having that employee in a vehicle traveling on public roads where they can’t control the situation and the atmosphere. [0:00] [0:00] So that’s just like an, uh, a secondary or even tertiary, um, safety benefit of ultrasonic meters. And then once you start attaching communication devices and electronics to these meters, so you can… [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  Telemetry? Telemetry? [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Yeah. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  Yeah. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Telemetry, yeah. So once you add telemetry, you know, you can then view all of your meters from one centralized hub in the cloud. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  Yeah. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Or on your own secure network, right? And so now, you can identify problems much faster than you would with say a rotary or diaphragm, where you could have a leak for weeks. Whereas, if you have this ultrasonic meter hooked up with tech‑, with telemetry… [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  Yeah. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  …you’re going to see diag‑, you are going to have diagnostics that are going to tell you, “Hey, something’s not going right in the meter. Let me, let me send an alert.” Right? [0:00] [0:00] So it’s, it’s technology evolving in our industry, um, in conjunction with ultrasonic. So there’s, there’s a lot with safety that can go with this and, uh, it, it’s really cool. And a lot of people don’t talk about safety when they talk about meters other than… [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  Mm‑hmm. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  …”Oh, is it, is it anti‑300? Is it anti‑600, anti‑900? I don’t want it, you know, is it C1D1?” [0:00] [0:00] But, you start looking at these other secondary and tertiary safety benefits from an ultrasonic meter, that’s where really where I think the, the rubber can really hit the road with getting people switched over to that technology. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  I like it. I, I… [0:00] [0:00]

James:  Yeah. It, it reminds me of ‑‑ I mean I’m a computer nerd ‑‑ but like when computer hard drives went from…to solid‑state drives, right? And there were no more moving parts, so. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Yeah. [0:00] [0:00]

James:  You know, the things that went out on old hard drives were the spinning, you know, drive and then the arm that read it, right? [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Mm‑hmm. [0:00] [0:00]

James:  And when we did away with all that, you could just be flying through, getting information. So that’s really cool. [0:00] [0:00] Jereme, we’re going to wrap here. But one thing we do right at the end is…one of our like core things with Coffee with Jim and James is we, we want it to be a platform where people get an opportunity to really give it all away, you know. [0:00] [0:00] What good is all the knowledge, all the things we’ve learned, the good, bad, the ugly, in‑betweens, um, if we don’t share it with everybody? Because, once we go, we take all that with us, right? [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Yeah. [0:00] [0:00]

James:  So, Jereme, you kind of have the floor. Is there anything you want to share with our audience, I mean, anything, personal, business, anywhere in between? [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Man, that’s, that’s a big, uh, big broad net there. [0:00] [[0:00] laughter] [0:00] [0:00]

James:  Just cast it out there. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Yeah, no. [0:00] [0:00]

James:  Anything you’ve learned over your years, anything in this industry, anything? A lot of… [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Yeah, this, this industry, you know, the biggest thing that I’ve learned is, um, this is a very small industry, the oil and gas business. It gets even smaller when you get down to the measurement side, which is where I’ve been for the last eight, nine years. [0:00] [0:00] Um, you know, you never know where you’re going to be and you never know where somebody else is going to be. So it’s best to be hospitable and kind to people and, regardless of your views and, you know, how, how you do your, your daily job. [0:00] [0:00] You know, I mean, it’s a small industry. It’s very small. And, you know, don’t, don’t burn any bridges. [0:00] [0:00]

James:  [chuckle] [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  It is what I tell, tell folks that are new in the industry or new to measurement. Don’t burn any bridges. Um, you know, just look out for everybody, be kind. And, and, you know, just… [0:00] [0:00]

James:  Mm‑hmm. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  That, that’s probably one of the biggest things I take away from, from the oil and gas business. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  That, that’s very, uh, insightful and, and very much it…At James’s my…and my core is, you know, building relationships and that network that we were just talking about that. [0:00] [0:00] That you never know when you’re going to need help from a friend. You, you know, and it may not even be for you… [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Yeah. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  …it could be for somebody else that calls you up and says, “Hey, do you know anybody that does ultrasonic meter, blah, blah, blah?” [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Yeah. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  And I’d be like, “Guess what, I got a friend.” [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Yeah. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  You know, or James could say that. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  It’s about, yeah, it’s about being an industry resource, right? And don’t, don’t bash your competitors and, and stuff like that. It’s know the industry, not just one little small niche of it, so that, um, so that… [0:00] [0:00] I do have one question before we go. [0:00] [0:00]

James:  Oh, my God. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  It’s been bothering me all podcast. So let’s… [0:00] [0:00]

James:  Is it Jim’s hair? [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  No, well, that’s, that’s every podcast. [0:00] [0:00]

James:  [chuckle] [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  So if we go back to Jim, he pointed out earlier, um, it might have been in the pre‑show, that, um, he has a Nespresso and a Keurig. Is that correct? [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  Mm‑hmm. Yes. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  So what, uh… [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  The Nespresso there… [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Yeah. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  …and the Keurig over there. [0:00] [0:00]

James:  No free sponsors. No free sponsors. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  No. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  So what, uh, which do you prefer? Because I’m having my own internal discussions. I have a Keurig. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  OK. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  I want a Nespresso because I like espresso, but I, I like the Keurig. I get, yeah, I should just get both, is really what it is. What’s your preference? [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  I would, I would, I would, uh, I would say yes. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  [chuckle] [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  And it began with my wife, Tammy Bomia, who is a director of so many things at ClockSpring|NRI, pipeline wraps. She has been in the Nespresso world. That’s, I think, our second one. I mean, we just… [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Mm‑hmm. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  …use that all the time. [0:00] [0:00] We went away to Georgia, up to the Chattahoochee National Forest, and spent a week in this secluded cabin and they had no Nespresso, and we’re like starting to shake, but they had a Keurig there. So we traveled into town, horse and buggy, well, actually the car, and bought some Keurig… [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  [laughs] [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  …and we sat out on this beautiful deck by the, by the creek and we got back from that vacation, we’re like, “Gosh, you know, the, the Keurig was a good change”. So we actually switch it up. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Mm‑hmm. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  So we’ll have some of these. Uh, these are single, double, uh, latte or not…not, not lattes, that’s wrong, but other things. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Yeah. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  And then this is really good for doing, you know, the, the coffees. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Coffee, uh. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  And Tammy, though, will sometimes do a mix, where she’ll do a coffee and then throw a shot of espresso into it. [0:00] [0:00]

James:  Wow. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  So it just gives you a lot of versatility. We have the little cups over here, uh. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Foam. [laughs] [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  There are some of the bigger cups over here and, yeah. Honestly… [0:00] [0:00]

James:  I’ve got, I’ve got an old‑school, seriously, coffee pot. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  Does it percolate? [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  I have one of those. [0:00] [0:00]

James:  I mean, I don’t know. I just drink it ’til it’s gone, every day. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  Does it like [percolate sound]? [0:00] [0:00]

James:  No, it’s just a coffee pot, I don’t know, like my grandpa had. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Like Mr. Coffee? [0:00] [0:00]

James:  Yeah. [0:00] [[0:00] laughter] [0:00] [0:00]

James:  I think that’s probably what it is. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  I love coffee conversations. [0:00] [0:00]

James:  KitchenAid from Wal‑Mart. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  I love coffee. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  [laughs]. It’s than one of the pre‑concert? [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  I, I have one of those Italian Mocha… [0:00] [0:00]

James:  Our first sponsor. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  …you know, the Mocha pots? [0:00] [0:00]

James:  Mm‑hmm. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  I have one of those. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  We, uh… [0:00] [0:00]

James:  Uh, uh. We’re going to have to have Jereme back on and just talk about coffee. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  I think we will. Jereme… [0:00] [0:00]

James:  Order. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  We got it James. [0:00] [0:00]

James:  Or whatever [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  You know, this… [0:00] [0:00]

James:  Talk about the cool posters we both have in the backgrounds. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. [0:00] [0:00] We, we talked about Bob Dylan, who began in Dinkytown, in Minneapolis, which is a little secluded eclectic area, right outside of the University of Minnesota campus. Back in the ’60s, that’s where you got to start. Dinkytown, right in Minneapolis. [0:00] [0:00]

James:  Dinkytown? I’ve made that episode after all that. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  Yeah. [0:00] [0:00]

James:  I thought it was a just pre‑show thing. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  Cool, how about the move on? [0:00] [0:00]

James:  Jereme, it’s been awesome. We appreciated it. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Yeah, thanks for having me on this award‑winning podcast. I appreciated it. [0:00] [0:00]

James:  Oh, award‑winning, award‑winning. All right. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  Now we’re good. [0:00] [0:00]

James:  We’ve met the quota. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  Give it a call. Jereme, thanks again, uh, on behalf of James and I. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Yeah. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  Thanks for taking the time today to enlighten us a little bit more about your technology, your company, some of the benefits of ultrasonic metering. I’m a huge fan. You absolutely hit some of my memory cells with this. So thank you, sir. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  Yeah. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  I appreciated it. I appreciated it. [0:00] [0:00]

Jereme:  My pleasure. [0:00] [0:00]

Jim:  Audience, please, if you’re on the LinkedIn, uh, platform connect with Jereme, follow SICK, learn some things, ask some questions and whatever you do, as I always say, stay safe. Until next week of Coffee with Jim and James. We will see you soon. Take care everybody and stay safe. [0:00] [[0:00] background music] [0:00]

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